How long can you be off sick before you need a sick note?

Self Certification form / Self cert sick note / Self certification sick note:

The question is, how long can you be off sick before you need a sick note? The answer is 7 days.

You can self-certify as ‘unfit to work’ for 7 calendar days before you will need to furnish your employer with a sick note.

However, during your sickness absence, it is incumbent upon you to comply with your employer’s sickness absence procedures. When submitting a self certification sick note we would suggest reviewing your employers sickness absence procedures in your contract of employment.

Self certification form can be done via email to your employer. Again, when submitting a self certification form via email, make sure you follow your employer’s sickness absence procedures.

When submitting a sick note for work, we would suggest you outline your reasons for self certifying both verbally and via email to the HR Department depending on your employer’s sickness absence policy for self cert sick note.

Occupational Health Reports:

What not to say to occupational health. My wife Amy and I have created a webpage on everything you need to know about what not to say to occupational health and the questions, which occupational health are likely to ask you.

Other topics covered on our occupational health page are as follows:

How long can you be off sick before you need a sick note?

What Not to Say to Occupational Health?

Can I refuse an occupational health assessment?

Disability-related sick leave and disability-related sickness absence.

Can occupational health sign you off work?

What to say to occupational health about stress.

What to say to occupational health about anxiety?

Occupational health assessment work / Occupational health assessment what to expect?

What questions are asked at an occupational health assessment?

Occupational health telephone assessment questions?

Employee rights occupational health UK?

How long can you be on sick leave before dismissal uk?

How long can you be off sick before you get sacked?

Can occupational health overrule gp sick note?

What to do if you disagree with occupational health report?

Do employers have to follow occupational health recommendations?

Self Certification Form / Self Cert:

My wife Amy & I would strongly suggest, that after you self cert as unfit for work or send your employer a self certification sick form, that you discuss with your doctor how the effects of (i) work-related stress, (ii) harassment or (iii) discrimination in the workplace has made, and is making you feel. Share your feelings with your GP, and how what you are experiencing at work is impacting upon your physical and psychological health and wellbeing. Explain to your GP that it may become necessary to exhibit your medical records to an Employment  Tribunal, so it is important that what you state to your doctor is imputed onto your medical records.  This is very important.

In the case of Veitch (Jason) v Red Sky Group Ltd it was the omission by the GP to have made accurate notes which led to his Employment Tribunal claim failing. Thus, you must stress to your GP that s/he documents what you are stating.

Try and see your doctor every two weeks thereafter, and up date him/her with regard to your situation, with express particular as to how it is making you feel. You should apply this practise throughout the grievance procedure, and thereafter, until such time as the grievance/appeal process has concluded.

Should you have to refer to the Tribunal and make a claim, your employer will undoubtedly instruct a medical expert to *view your medical records. Should this be the case, continue to see you doctor. Don’t be afraid to big it up a bit; you need to establish that work-related stress, harassment or discrimination is having a “detrimental impact” upon your mental and physical health. Anything along the lines of not eating, sleeping, night sweats, heart palpitations, anxiety, migraines, a change in habits, avoiding people, not socialising etc, are all important, even if they may seem trivial to you.

*Under the Data Protection Act, you only have to divulge the information on your medical records which is relative to that which you are claiming compensation for. Any other information on your medical records does not need to be exhibited. In our own case, we pulled our own medical records and went through them with a black marker, making copies of the copies to ensure that the print was not seen when held up to the light, or at an angle.

Sick Note:

Any fit note or sick note your doctor provides you with, make sure you photocopy it 2x and place the copies in a folder for safe keeping. Your employer will undoubtedly say it has ‘misplaced’ one or more of your fit notes in the event you make a claim to a Tribunal. The sick notes you provide to your employer constitutes ‘medical evidence’ of your mental or physical health.

Data Protection Act 2018:

Your employer is legally obligated to comply with The GDPR 2018 or DPA 2018. This means that any fit note / sick note you provide to your employer ought to be given to the Human Resources Department, and NOT your line manager. The HR department are legally obliged to keep your fit note in an “organised filing system”. Employers must be careful not to breach The GDPR 2018 when they collect, use and store information about employees’ absences. Details of your health (either physical or mental) are categorised as ‘sensitive personal data’ under The GDPR 2018. Therefore, your line manager does not need to know what ailment you are suffering from, or the reason for your absence at work; only the fact that you will not be attending work, and for what duration. Should your employer provide your line manager with any other information than the aforementioned, it would amount to a contravention of The GDPR 2018.

In our own case, we sent our ‘fit notes’ directly to the organisations centralised Human Resources Department. In turn, the HR Deptartment sent the ‘fit note’ to the general manager where we worked, who saw fit to provide it to the line manager who had harassed us. This was a direct contravention of the Data Protection Act 1998, and also of the Human Rights Act 1998.

As a consequence of our employer’s ineptitude to observe it statutory duties under the auspices of the DPA 1998, at the time we lodged our Tribunal *claims, we contended that this “act” amounted to a “fundamental breach” of the implied term of “mutual trust and confidence” (See: Morrow v Safeway). In addition, we invoked Article 8 of the HRA 1998, and reported our employer to the ICO.

*Tribunals do not have jurisdiction to hear breaches of the DPA 1998. However, where an employer has divulged confidential medical information, without the employee’s permission to do so, it would almost certainly amount to a breach of the “mutual trust and confidence”.

Human Rights Act 1998

European law is taken into consideration in Tribunals. Therefore, any violation of your ‘right to privacy’ under Article 8 of the HRA 1998 is actionable. The right to ‘medical confidentiality’ falls under the auspices of the HRA 1998. A breach of an employee’s confidential medical information would very likely amount to a breach of Article 8 of the HRA 1998, making the employer liable to pay the claimant compensation, especially where it was injurious to the employee’s reputation. (Eg. disclosure that an employee is HIV positive).

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